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Posted by Data in Cortex Command - September 24th, 2007

Yep, and it’s dynamic so when new tunnels are created and old ones get clogged with corpses, the AI will always know the path of least resistance to their targets - even if it means digging through lots of material!

This will change the necessity to heap tons of stupid AI guys on you like we used to do in the test builds. Now only a handful of smarty enemies should make a much more fun challenge than before.

It also means your own AI-controlled bodies can be commanded more specifically and be able to carry out much more complex tasks. Don’t want to bother digging that tunnel yourself? Just send one of your drones to do it for you, and he’ll expertly avoid rocks and other subterranean obstacles on the way.

UPDATE:
AI made tunnel

“Look Pa - I did it all on my own!”

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314 Responses to “Pathfinding, you say?”

First? - # September 24th, 2007 at 12:29 am
:O
Nakki - # September 24th, 2007 at 12:32 am
FIRST!

looks awesome.
Elpolodiablo - # September 24th, 2007 at 12:41 am
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1st post!
Evveron - # September 24th, 2007 at 12:42 am
Awesome!
BreenedandScrooned - # September 24th, 2007 at 12:49 am
Awesome! Will the AI be able to use their jetpacks?
Nikica - # September 24th, 2007 at 1:06 am
Why you dont make the image from the “Crunchtime Update” so big ???
ChJees - # September 24th, 2007 at 1:10 am
About time :P.

Nice though! By the way, when are you going to accept Payment for Cortex Command?
Seraph - # September 24th, 2007 at 1:20 am
Nice. I’m just itching to buy a copy of this game already!
Bob - # September 24th, 2007 at 1:32 am
SWEET!
finairfin - # September 24th, 2007 at 1:58 am
dynamic pathfinding is made of win. I can’t wait to have my base infiltrated by intelligent enemies.

“…your own AI-controlled bodies can be commanded more specifically and be able to carry out much more complex tasks. Don’t want to bother digging that tunnel yourself? Just send one of your drones to do it for you, and he’ll expertly avoid rocks and other subterranean obstacles on the way.”

more specifically…… does this mean that you can specify exactly where you want a tunnel to be dug? sorta like drawing a line or something?
JeCa - # September 24th, 2007 at 2:31 am
Awesome! I guess the AI digging will be a lot better from now on too, then, eh? I’d so long to have this, but I’m still a bit confused after the last update.

Will the next update be commercial, and will there be multiple commercial builds? If so, then will there be any more free builds including AI pathfinding, /better/ (not full) editor? Or will the game be a free download with locked content?

I’ll probably buy the game anyway, but these things would be nice to get a bit more info about first.
Bode - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:35 am
Awesome sauce. Gonna love.
brinlarden - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:41 am
nice,
ill defo’s buy this game its getting so awesome.
Slim22 - # September 24th, 2007 at 6:24 am
FRICKIN’ AWESOME! But has this been implemented yet (B18/2)? ‘cos the AI still don’t dig, even when I equip them all with diggers. Am I just being a dumbass or what?
3000! - # September 24th, 2007 at 6:39 am
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Slim22 - # September 24th, 2007 at 6:46 am
I am a dumbass! The reason I thought it was B18/2 was ‘cos I already had a ccsetup.exe (B18) on my desktop. Doh!
RESOLUT - # September 24th, 2007 at 7:11 am
thats nice…no…Very NICE!by the way,will you going sell it in whole world or only in usa or europe?
THOR is a horrible moderator - # September 24th, 2007 at 7:31 am
This is amazing! Incredible work, Data!
poudidi - # September 24th, 2007 at 7:49 am
INCREDIBLE !
Foogooman - # September 24th, 2007 at 7:59 am
Dear God. Clones that navigate bases?! What has science done?!

This is amazing, exactly how I thought you would do it. AWESOME!
Cevius - # September 24th, 2007 at 8:09 am
Wonderful! The AI being stupid enough to just keep running into the same spot kinda bugged me, and now its no longer an issue!

Great work guys
brinlarden - # September 24th, 2007 at 8:33 am
so, er when’s the release date then?
zalo - # September 24th, 2007 at 8:35 am
Amazing.

Next could you make rockets and
dropships that know how to ram stuff?

“Wait, I never DLed that actor bef- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!”
Delgado - # September 24th, 2007 at 8:42 am
OMG PLEASE POST BUILD 19!!! {PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS

This is freakin revoloutionary or howevr u speeeeel it omg omg o,mg im typing so fast tht om messing upp
AtomicTroop - # September 24th, 2007 at 8:54 am
Delgado.. did you already forget? there is no Build 19. There will be Commercial 1.0
gsm - # September 24th, 2007 at 8:55 am
No AI in the alpha/beta free builds? Aww. I just wanted to send waves of intelligent, cheap clones at my friends…
Cries - # September 24th, 2007 at 9:34 am
Awesome. Whole new level…
sami - # September 24th, 2007 at 9:38 am
awesome! when can we load that free test build?
Galaxy613 - # September 24th, 2007 at 9:49 am
25th post Pathfinding will be awesome!
Dragory - # September 24th, 2007 at 9:52 am
Awesome!!
robolee - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:11 am
woot yeah

this means a quick placement of the brain bunker underground wont work any more.

what will happen if you put a wall in front of an underground brain bunker entrance? dig in from the top of the bunker through the concrete.

what happens if it loses its digger?, will it know to move out the way to let ones that do have a digger infiltrate?
Kurrus - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:12 am
Yes very cool. This is what I expect now from CC:

1.- Massive CPU overheating/load.
2.- Total forum disorder.

Fuck off Data, you blubbered too much bullshit already.
robolee - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:16 am
“Will the AI be able to use their jetpacks?”

“more specifically…… does this mean that you can specify exactly where you want a tunnel to be dug? sorta like drawing a line or something?”

also coded with LUA? or whatever?

I suppose it now has a huge physics revamp to incorporate all this am I rite?

HAVE YOU FIXED THE “M” KEY BUG WHERE THE MATERIALS GOES ALL FUNNY?

I need answers
robolee - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:21 am
“This is what I expect now from CC:

1.- Massive CPU overheating/load.” agreed you taken my graphics card advice data?

“Fuck off Data, you blubbered too much bullshit already.” (that means quote I don’t agree with this)
about what?
I think your being mean to data because you don’t like the forums (specifically THOR- who I agree is a total… anyways moving on and the 1337 people who just call everyone noobs but have seem to left now)
Curious programmer - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:34 am
what will AI the if the brain is completly surronded by rocks?
Blob - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:35 am
OMFGZORZ!!!!!!!!! AMAZING!!!!!! INCREDIBLE!!!

Oooohhhh can’t wait, JUST CAN’T WAIT!!
Lazyfaith - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:36 am
OMG that looks so cool. Good luck making it perfect.
Kenny Compton - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:42 am
Wow, This will be fun!

When Can We Buy?
michael - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:52 am
omg finnaly yeah
LE0Nteh1337 (include the 1337) - # September 24th, 2007 at 11:19 am
Will there be any more downloadable test builds?
Blob - # September 24th, 2007 at 11:20 am
What the little gold circle on the rock between brain vault and tunnel?
Some n00b - # September 24th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
One word will do fine:

Bravo.
Galaxy613 - # September 24th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
Robolee said “HAVE YOU FIXED THE “M” KEY BUG WHERE THE MATERIALS GOES ALL FUNNY?”

HAVE YOU TRIED PRESSING M UNTIL IT GOES BACK TO NORMAL?

The M key is what Data uses to check the different materials and stuff. It’s a debug tool for him.
joshua - # September 24th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
FINALLY!
FooBear - # September 24th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
ZOMG FINALY!! DEAR GOD I CANT WAIT FOR NEXT BETA BUILD and or when we have to pay!!
Minorkos - # September 24th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
It’ll suck if the CC costs money… But I think they deserve it
JEM - # September 24th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
will the ai be able to jet up ledges or hide behind objects to avoud fire???

or even turn away and retreat if the ground gets to smoked
iwillcontrolyou - # September 24th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
I simply cannot wait. B19 will be made of pathfinding and win.
Peewee - # September 24th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Does the AI take enemy positions into account?
like say, i made a LONG tunnel leading to an open brain, and a shorter one that’s pinned down by one of my guys. Would it take the long or short path?
Shane - # September 24th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
Is B19 going to be beta, or the entire game? I get the idea your making a limited demo for it. In either case this will be where my money is in whatever gaming season it comes out in.
Josh - # September 24th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
can’t wait till the next build!
Whef - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Awesome to dah max. I still think your rushing things, trying to get it into a full version already, also I don’t think you should make it cost money yet, it’s just not near done, but anyways, If you buy it once will you receive all future updates?
Whef - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Oh yeah btw don’t involve the graphics card in this, I have a kick ass processor but not such a good Graphics card, it already runs lagglessly in the most intense combat.
Kelas - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
Data, you are truely epic. I simply can not wait for the next build.

On a side note, discuss the state of the forum, and your opinions of it elsewhere, this is for comments on how awesome Data and CC are and only comments on how awesome CC and Data are. With a bit of CONSTRUCTIVE criticism ONLY. No uncivil, rude and highly innapropriate attacks towards Data, or any other forum member.

Also; Data, you rock. I’ll gladly pay however much CC is going to cost. But don’t you dare tell us how much it’s gonna cost. Suprise us!
Electroclan - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
Excellent! Another awesome feature from DRL.

I have but one question, similar to many others asked here. Will the AI effectively use their jetpacks to, say, get over obstructing walls instead of digging through them? Will they jetpack up to the entrance of a tower?

It was mentioned previously, though unfriendly. I must ask if the CC engine will be upgraded to load and run the game faster?
GUNREVO - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Sounds awesome. Smarter AI is just what I wanted!
I was wondering why the actors kept on running into walls.
Carp - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Winnage!
As others have asked, will this be in a future test build, or only the full version? Any specifics on date/price?
robolee - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
# Galaxy613 said
HAVE YOU TRIED PRESSING M UNTIL IT GOES BACK TO NORMAL?

The M key is what Data uses to check the different materials and stuff. It’s a debug tool for him.#

oh ha you think I don’t know ALL of this?
I meant the material layer idiot THINK NEXT TIME
the only reason I mentioned this is because that layer is dodgey
robolee - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
“Oh yeah btw don’t involve the graphics card in this, I have a kick ass processor but not such a good Graphics card, it already runs lagglessly in the most intense combat.”

thats why it will be smart and allow BOTH if the processor handles data and the the GRAPHICS card handles GRAPHICS it will run loads better, as any graphics card can run most 2d games seamlessly and they’re handling data as well
Alenth - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
Why does the line go like that, ot almost suggests a hexagonal/octagonal grid across the map that the AI uses to plot paths, or maybe you drew that line yourself? Just the first thing I wondered seeing the image.

This will probably allow a few interesting things to be done…
Cayne - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
I have a data realms shrine in my house now…

I can just see it now, building huge underground complexes and fighting for every inch of it as the AI baddies try to get to the brain. So many new features… I can’t wait.
Data - # September 24th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Alenth: The line is drawn in debug mode to enable me to see the paths. The pathfinding is done on a 20px square grid overlayed on the scene, but the paths it spits out gets processed further afterward, hence the irregular looking line you see in the image.
TFSR - # September 24th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Damn, I was thinking that it might work by having a fourth layer. Different colors on that layer change AI behavior, but that means you’d need a different tunnel for right and left…
Oh, well. RELEASE SOON PEE ELL OH ECKZ!
Peter - # September 24th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Those silly enemy clones….. their strategy is to walk around on the ground above the brain until they make a hole big enough to shoot in (they actually did once when i wasn’t looking :O).
whitty - # September 24th, 2007 at 6:46 pm
hey data-

stop all currenct things and RELEASE B19 WITH DIS!!!

EPIC EPIC EPICCCC!!!
sylverone (aka cliftut) - # September 24th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
“It’ll suck if the CC costs money… But I think they deserve it :)”
Thank you! (not for the compliment, which obviously not for me XD, but for being understanding towards the devs) I hate how spoiled punks keep saying that CC shouldn’t go commercial. I wish we had a 6-7 year project we could start them on and expect them to quit their jobs and work on it for no reward, since that is EXACTLY what they are asking of Data, even if they don’t realize it. Ugh…

Anyway, on topic;
I think that pathing is CC’s second (since the idea of digging for gold) decisive step towards the pseudo-RTS-ish aspect that Data mentioned he wanted CC to have. Assuming that hasn’t changed, I think we can expect more exciting additions like this in the future, as the game gets closer and closer to completion. With smarter but less numerous enemies, some of the strategy aspect will arise naturally (building your base will now require more strategy than just putting a wall between the AI and your brain).

My question is, how far is this going to go in the strategy direction? In the future will it be possible to select multiple bodies and send them towards an enemy brain in a single, large, AI controlled wave? I personally think that would be awesome.

Also, will pathfinding eventually take enemies into account, or is that going to be left just to line of site?

Will the bots eventually be able to avoid trying to climb on/over one another, dismembering their teammates? I know that it’s been reduced, but if they could avoid climbing on each other altogether it would all but eliminate the problem.

I have to be 100% honest; after what was at least a month of CC obsession, I got tired of the test builds. They were (are) for the most part just sandboxes for mods that hinted at the game they are now being turned into. Eventually I ran out of satisfying things to do. Please note, however, that that’s just part of my personality; I’m the type that finds something that interests me and obsesses over it for a few months, learning as much as I can about it, and then move on, returning occasionally. My current interest is Dwarf Fortress, for those who’ve heard of it.
*reads over the stuff I just wrote*
Yikes! I’ve done it again… I need to stop spilling out the entirety of my thoughts whenever I go to post. I’ll stop here.
What - # September 24th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
*Orgasm*
Alenth - # September 24th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Yeah, I realised after posting it that it must be a square grid(which makes more sense anyways), but the angles it chose to use strick me as so odd in places I was confused.

I guess that’s what you get with complex sorting algorythms, I respect the fact that you got it to even draw that line, far more than I could ever have done.

Of course, my first mission will be to try and confuse the pathfinder to see what it takes to do so.

I assume actors will use diggers, but will they resort to digging with SMGs? Perhaps at a certain point where they no longer have the equipment to dig, they should go out on a mission to kill the players units, making it a little more difficult to simply take out all the stealthy little enemies from behind.
meatsim1 - # September 24th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
hurry up for oct 1 igf deadline!
and awesome awesome awesome!
AGENT15 - # September 25th, 2007 at 12:33 am
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!
AGENT15 - # September 25th, 2007 at 12:34 am
Seriously though, jesus fucking christ oh my GORSH that roxorz my boxorz. Fuck. I need a donate button! MUST GIVE DATA ALL OF MY LIFE SAVINGS!
JJJohan - # September 25th, 2007 at 4:27 am
Will the game optionally use the graphics card for processing other than the CPU? Something I could use my ASUS EN8800GTS 640MB on :).
Robowurmz - # September 25th, 2007 at 4:51 am
Oh please data, let this be in a test build! I want to see it in action and everything!!!
robolee - # September 25th, 2007 at 6:37 am
yes omg A DONATE BUTTON thousands of people donate to stuff all over the web for no reason, you must get one.
you’d like have $/£1000 by now.

but put it on the dev log.
check this:
http://nifflas.ni2.se/forum/index.php?topic=441.0
people will just throw mony at you

(this could either replace the fee for the game or join it)
Alenth - # September 25th, 2007 at 7:49 am
Someone suggested it to another game dev I know of, but he refused, something about there being little chance that he would actually make a profit off of it. Data would have to look into it himself.
brinlarden - # September 25th, 2007 at 11:44 am
wow your admins a right cunt

“You’re an idiot, that wasn’t directed at you.

I was only attempting to make it clear for anyone who comes in the thread.

Shut up, not everything is about you. No one cares, no one likes you–so shut the **** up.

Cheers, you stupid **** Brit.”
~THOR

ok, right i dont give a shit if no one likes me, but THOR IS A COMPLETE DICK FACED CUNT. that post looked as if it was directed at me ok and im sorry if it wasnt. but THOR SHOULD BE BANNED. ive been on this forum since last year and have followed the project all this time, ive had a go at modding and failed, but i carried on regardless. i remember when this forum used to be cool now its just SHIT.
lately ive noticed just about every topic is getting locked and ive decided , thats it game over im lurking bye knob faced fat shit nerd fuck. GO GET AIDS
Blob - # September 25th, 2007 at 11:53 am
You are completely right.
Blob - # September 25th, 2007 at 11:55 am
But I don’t like that people are talking ’bout things like this in dev log.
brinlarden - # September 25th, 2007 at 11:58 am
this is the only way data will listen, even then i doubt he’ll even care. ill still buy this game, but the forum is going to shit.
DATA sort it.
Blob - # September 25th, 2007 at 12:06 pm
I understand why you are writing it here.
RICKY TANG - # September 25th, 2007 at 12:17 pm
Thor is a douche. He locks and deletes threads for no reason, and he bans and threatens people that don’t need that. He totally abuses his powers and shouldn’t be a moderator anymore.

The forum is a wasteland now, and Thor basically rapes it all day. Please remove his moderator authority.
Treelor - # September 25th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Holy shit.

HOLY SHIT.

… Damnit, I’ve just creamed myself. Look what you’ve done, Data.
billli999 - # September 25th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
OMG woot you rock data u r tha best!!!
Yon - # September 25th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
Can you get the AI
to shoot and move at the
same time as a tactical
option.

(ie. I want sniper clone to stand to shoot,
but I want sword clone to move and shoot.)
lurkie mc lurk lurk - # September 25th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
update looks sexy data, when is the release date or have you not fianlised it yet?
sylverone (aka cliftut) - # September 25th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
“yes omg A DONATE BUTTON thousands of people donate to stuff all over the web for no reason, you must get one.
you’d like have $/£1000 by now.” –robolee

Actually, I think there was a donation button at the top of the devlog at one time… Does anyone remember? I think when Data quit his job he was hoping the donation button would help him get a bit of extra money. Maybe he took it down? Was there ever one or am I just confused?

About the new picture: Data’s created monsters… we’ll never feel safe again!
Joe Mikkel - # September 25th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
The final piece of the puzzle is set. The game looks finished!
However, I wouldn’t mind discovering a whole new side of the puzzle

Poetry aside, i can’t wait to get my hands on this. I’m almost as psyched about this as I am about Fallout 3! (The thought of latter keeps me up at night;-)
Foogooman - # September 25th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Sweet Jesus, that update picture just made my pants smaller.

This will be amazing!

New test build soon… maybe?
AGENT15 - # September 25th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Holy shit, the new picture scares me. If the new enemies can dig, we are fucked up the balls. It will make th game WAY cooler though. Now you can’t just lock in your brain and go hunting. You actually have to GUARD and stuff. Using defenses and traps pays off. I hope we get land mines, barbed wire and stuff to place, that would be awesome.
Data - # September 25th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
There never was a donate button…
AGENT15 - # September 25th, 2007 at 6:52 pm
But there needs to be.
Data - # September 25th, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Just buy more than one license of the game when it comes out
Galaxy613 - # September 25th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
THOR HAS BEEN DEMODDED CONGRATS ALL!
AGENT15 - # September 25th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Data: I would either donate like $20 or so, or just pay a bit more when the game is released.

Either way, great work so far, and keep it up. Cortex Command is one of my top 3 favorite games.
finairfin - # September 26th, 2007 at 2:44 am
i would totally donate a bunch of cash for some sort of special edition or something. dunno how exactly a special edition version of CC would work, but it’d be awesome.

hell, i’d donate money just to know that it’d help the game progress towards a commercial version.
blipflip - # September 26th, 2007 at 9:42 am
ZOMGWTFAEWSOOMME

*ahem*

Seriously, this is how the game should be. Thank you.
Kurrus - # September 26th, 2007 at 10:01 am
Okay, it seems like you Data got your shit together and deadminned thor. Bravo. Sorry for saying that thing I said earlier.
KillerCat9 - # September 26th, 2007 at 11:37 am
How about a video of this in action? Would be nice ^^
SP2 - # September 26th, 2007 at 11:51 am
I know a way for donators, maybe some extra skins for Cortex Command, and maybe some different heart colours?
Block - # September 26th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Isn’t the idea of donations to give something and not receive anything?
numgun - # September 26th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
…those invader bastard wont get anything better than a light digger from me. Noo way.

Say, can they fly using this system? Since there might be some bunker designs that require the actor to fly up the shaft using jets (if any) and then continue normally to the brain.
TFSR - # September 26th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
“Just buy more than one license once it comes out” — Data.
Yep, planning on doing so. Will there be a discount for multiple licenses? I am planning on buying one for myself, and 2-3 others.
Also, with the licenses, would I be allowed to use the same license on my desktop and on my laptop?
iwillcontrolyou - # September 26th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Since this is apparently an AI focused build, I’d like to point out something: Could you make the AI able to use it’s jetpack while flying? I’ve got the enemies to spawn without a dropship, and they’ll jetpack down, but if they see me, they cut the jetpack and start firing. Not good for an enemy who sees me about 30 feet from the ground.
AGENT15 - # September 26th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
I think the jetpacks right now are used by the AI to soften falls, which is great because it’s cool being able to “paradrop” guys from a dropship that can’t go too low because of soldiers on the ground.
Jack The Llama Commando - # September 26th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
Sounds great. On another note, Sami posted. Sami, if you read this message, where did joo go? I miss you. :/
finairfin - # September 27th, 2007 at 12:11 am
y’know what i just noticed? not only did that clone use a digger to get to the brain vault, he also used the digger as a weapon to destroy the brain.

dangerous times are upon us, and it’s awesome
Peewee - # September 27th, 2007 at 4:45 am
Hmmm… does that mean the ai isn’t smart enough to switch weapons? :/
Kyonai - # September 27th, 2007 at 5:14 am
No, I think it means that they use the weapon most dangerous for the distance they are at to their enemy. If you notice he was right below it, hell, I’d use a digger if I was right below a brain.
no one - # September 27th, 2007 at 9:04 am
will the commercial version of cc be like gmod? in the sense that you pay once and get free updates.
or will it be cheap for the base and you pay a small amount like 2 to 5 dollars for a REALLLLLLLY big update every month or so?
or maybe have cc be 10 dollars and updates that take 2 to 3 months are expansion packs?
the possibilites(sp?) are nearly endless
Peewee - # September 27th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Well yeah, but looking at the path he took, it would’ve been faster to pull out another gun and shoot than to walk over to it.
TFSR - # September 27th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Disagreed. It’d take around the same time. Plus, it’s more humiliating if it’s a digger… or a pistol *gasp*.
And also- Can I please, please get the pricing for a license for the game, and what, if any, discounts apply to getting 5 licenses?
Peter - # September 27th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
No One, these test games are to make sure they don’t need updates in the full game.
eternjc - # September 27th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
Hmm, this really looks awesome! The game will go down in the history books …

I can’t can’t wait to see how this AI plays out!

Will they use jetpacks to get over things? Hmm … and by easiest path, that doesn’t mean the AI only follows the most open path, does it? So, say I have two tunnels
One that runs for 200km, with no barricades. Another that’s only 10m, but the entrace is covered with dirt. Would the AI chose the quicker path?
AGENT15 - # September 27th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
The best sellign method would be to pay once for a registration/serial key, then just get free updates. Same as Mount and Blade, and Toribash.
Peewee - # September 27th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
“the AI will always know the path of least resistance to their targets”

so… 10m path.
Afroded - # September 27th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
…I had a hard time surviving when there wasn’t THIS!(even on easy!!(ok, i’m a noob 12yearold but still…))

The Game is still going to be swt!!!

IT VVILL ROXORZ MY SOXORZ AND MY BOXORZ WILL DROPZORZ!!!!

ZOMFGZIGGLEHYPFERLATION!!!!!! Is there any possible way to understand that?? I’m the only one that knows… LOL

not much else to say but I know that I will like the game and I’ll buy it. And donate. And all that other crap. I’m 12…
Linongion - # September 27th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
I love the update image…

“Good job son! YEE HAW!”
Linongion - # September 27th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
Further more… Give me…. uh…. half a year till i turn 19 and am elligible for a visa…. i’ll buy 5…
robolee - # September 27th, 2007 at 6:55 pm
@Linongion
lol it says
“Look Pa - I did it all on my own!”

not “Good job son! YEE HAW!”
AquaGeneral - # September 28th, 2007 at 12:04 am
Afroded I am 13 and CC is not hard, you just must get used to how the game works and work out some tactics.

On Topic: Pathfinding, OMG Finally! Cant wait for the next release. Especially if that is the full game
Wolfie - # September 28th, 2007 at 12:46 am
Talk to VALVe and see about getting it on steam, they’ll be more than impressed.
Methalated Spirit - # September 28th, 2007 at 1:22 am
wooow, my life is complete
O_O - # September 28th, 2007 at 6:09 am
GAH! :O
sami - # September 28th, 2007 at 6:41 am
open that free build, i plz wanna even try it before buying ful version
Kaito - # September 28th, 2007 at 9:19 am
I will seriusly buy this game, Finally a challenge since the skeletors and the robots could dig through the ground :’D
Blob - # September 28th, 2007 at 11:37 am
Twoo Days Left..
robolee - # September 28th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Twoo Days Left..

how are you knowing this stuff’s?
KarvaBopi - # September 28th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
oh my god oh my god when this did came !?!!?
KarvaBopi - # September 28th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
BTW data, i would want you to pm me in data realms or make answer here. HOW can i buy CC when it costs ? can i like mail order a code or something, because if it includes visa cards and etc and stuff like that, i cant get CC and then i will kill my self olmost literally.
KarvaBopi - # September 28th, 2007 at 2:01 pm
and anything like buying trought steam is one part too :S .
Hiro - # September 28th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
I won’t buy this game if it’s over $20.

But I have a mac, so I seriously hope you’re going to keep you word on the mac port. That’ll get you a few more sold. And you’ve got my buy no matter what. I wouldn’t pirate this diamond in the rough if I had a serial key right in front of me.
Purple - # September 28th, 2007 at 11:37 pm
Will a clone without a jetpack know to take the stairs from a building, or will they just jump out the nearest window to get to the ground with the least resistance?

Also, will the clones know the power of it’s own digger? A clone with a light digger has to move around the rocks, but one with a heavy digger would be wasting time if they tried to avoid “natural” obstacles in the ground.
finairfin - # September 29th, 2007 at 2:16 am
what about jet-packing over gaps? will you be able to trick them with a simple pitfall?
Sheezy - # September 29th, 2007 at 2:57 am
This will win… Imagine this, you are losing a battle and most of your base is trashed, you are taking refuge in the brain vault which is now barracaded with a pile of corpses, and all of the sudden a skeleton walks to it and tunnels through and disables your weapon by shooting it, it then kills you and your main control brain…
I am going to have to put traps…

Acid clones in between the obsticles would do, they would explode and disentigrate the skeleton…
Blob - # September 29th, 2007 at 3:06 am
What about ingame video recorder? Is that a good idea?
Data - # September 29th, 2007 at 9:43 am
Blob: we’ve made progress on a way to make the game capture and spit out animated gifs directly… just pause, drag a box on the screen or in the scene, unpause and hold down a special key to capture from that box. Each time the capture key is released, a shiny new gif animation gets spit out, showing what happened in the box while the key was held down.
Data - # September 29th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Finafin: We’re teaching the AI to not only jetpack over level gaps, but also to jet up and over tall walls.

Hiro: There’s a contradiction in your comment

Karva: Don’t worry, we will support a ton of different ways to pay for a copy of the game, not all requiring credit cards.

Sami: There will be a free trial version.
AGENT15 - # September 29th, 2007 at 10:14 am
The jetpacking sounds cool. So far enemies have been easy to stop, just make pits and walls, but the new AI sounds like it will be incredible. Good work.

Also, that gif system sounds awesome for modders.
theannoyed1 - # September 29th, 2007 at 10:56 am
How much???

but more importantly where
cuz i dont live in your fat stupid country and i know a dozen people who play this game

Are you guys gonna make anymore games??

and add more base stuff for modders
think of some stuff for miscellneous
like air strikes etc
theannoyed1 - # September 29th, 2007 at 10:58 am
and when you do the campaign give it more of a plot
Blob - # September 29th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
Oh my!! Data, these your two comments amazed me… I begin to understand: test builds don’t have even a little piece of the real game experience. I can’t even imagine what would be the real, finished “Cortex Command”
Grif - # September 29th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
@TheAnnoyed:

Discriminating against all of America by calling us “stupid and fat” is making yourself just as ignorant as those in America who gave us that reputation.

I highly doubt that your geographical location would have any bearing on the game itself, seeing as how all you need is a download link and a serial key to play the game. As far as payment, some kind of paypal system will undoubtedly be created as one method of payment.

Also, I think Data already has what he’s going to do planned, he doesn’t really need you to reiterate in a clumsy, badly formatted manner.

@Data:
Gifmaker ftw.
TFSR - # September 29th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Agree’d @ Grif.
Also, Data:
PACKAGE PRICING GET: for 5 licenses.
Sheezy - # September 29th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Theannonyed, just as Grif said “Discriminated against all of America by calling us “stupid and fat” is making yourself just as ignorant as those in America who gave us that reputation.” AND, there are stereotypes against your country too.
innerfire34 - # September 30th, 2007 at 12:34 am
WOO FIRST POST!
flameman1101 - # September 30th, 2007 at 7:48 am
Data so if the test builds are just a small bit of the game how many giga bites will it take up supposedly? and will weapons be able to be made still for the game? so how will you draw the line the AI follows, and will it be invisible? still this will be so awesome. 1 last thing will you be able to buy this in stores along with online? this will be so freakin awesome!
Hiro - # September 30th, 2007 at 8:19 am
@ Data

Oops. I guess I should make rough drafts of my comments now :B

@Flameman

Giga bytes? LoL!
JeCa - # September 30th, 2007 at 10:19 am
@Flameman: Unless I’m totally mistaken, the lines are drawn by the AI automatically once they have any clones and only visible in DaTa’s debug version. Also…

Giga bytes? O_o Yay for 34 times more content!
Grif - # September 30th, 2007 at 10:50 am
Yeah, something tells me the game will never even come close to gigabytes.

That’d be insane; considering that the average mod is about…oh, 10 kb or so.
AGENT15 - # September 30th, 2007 at 11:20 am
Text based games can never come close to over a gigabyte. Since everything in this game (a lot of the content anyway) is made with text files, it will never take much space because text takes almost nothing to store.
Blob - # September 30th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
“Text based”? And i have so much mods that it eats more than 1Gb. And I’m sure final version would have much more content.
@Hiro: you took your nickname from Heroes?
Grif - # September 30th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
There is NO way you have a mod that’s 1 gb.

I believe I made the largest mod ever with zTestbed, and it’s 15 megs.
Peewee - # September 30th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
The largest i have is longisland, at 28.2 megs… and my whole folder is only like 240 megs.
robolee - # September 30th, 2007 at 2:01 pm
my folder is: 155 MB (163,468,296 bytes, 484 folders :))

and that’s EVERY mod I’ve EVER downloaded (using the patch and running on build 18)
flameman1101 - # September 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
i have so many mods from the different test builds that each of them have at least 700mb each and like blob said surly the full virsion will be way way more than a couple mbs
TFSR - # September 30th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
I hate to keep saying this, but Data: I really want the package pricing for this.
Also, I can’t wait for the release.
Peewee - # September 30th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
what TFSR said.
Blob - # September 30th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
@Grif: I said that i have LARGE AMOUNT of mods.
numgun, you said that today will be new build. What the hell? yoou wasn’t joking, right?
AGENT15 - # September 30th, 2007 at 10:55 pm
When did numgun ever say that?
Grif - # September 30th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
The IGF deadline is October 1st.

It’s technically still September for Data, I believe.
21GP - # September 30th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
except america really is fat.
that’s not even a stereotype.
Durza - # October 1st, 2007 at 4:50 am
@ 21 GP You mean the actual country?
whitty - # October 1st, 2007 at 6:05 am
ZOMG CC AT IGF!!1!!!!!!111!!!!

http://www.igf.com/php-bin/entries2007.php?entry_id=154

there is the link.
Blob - # October 1st, 2007 at 6:17 am
Whitty, it was there earlier.
Nikica - # October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 am
Idiot(WHITTY) IGF 2007 was last year, the entrants list for this IGF (2008) is not yet out, I think it’s because the deadline is the end of October 1st.
Blob - # October 1st, 2007 at 6:55 am
Nikica you created a new topic instead of posting message in general.
Nikica - # October 1st, 2007 at 7:39 am
i Know, lol.
robolee - # October 1st, 2007 at 8:43 am
he’s still got until 11:59 TONIGHT
robolee - # October 1st, 2007 at 8:47 am
14 hours left
robolee - # October 1st, 2007 at 8:49 am
17 hours I mean
Kurrus - # October 1st, 2007 at 1:06 pm
JESUS CHRIST DATA POST THE DAMN BUILD 19!!11!1111!1!1!1S´P23U`F0V ERIGPUFBS5RFGVH456G56GBG .-,GHgbn_DFKJSHDLÑFKG
SP2 - # October 1st, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Or Commercial Version 1… Pl0x.
THOR is a horrible moderator - # October 1st, 2007 at 2:25 pm
“I know a way for donators, maybe some extra skins for Cortex Command, and maybe some different heart colours?”

ANYONE can make a mod that does that in a few seconds, no one would pay for that!
Hiro - # October 1st, 2007 at 2:38 pm
@ Blob

No, this has been my name for pretty much everything for two years.
It’s the only simple sounding yet awesome common Japanese name.
Got it from a book, Snow Crash.

I’m crossing my fingers for a mac port..
AGENT15 - # October 1st, 2007 at 4:43 pm
Heh, Macs.
robolee - # October 1st, 2007 at 5:04 pm
7 hours data 7 HOURS!!!!!!!!!
Delgado - # October 1st, 2007 at 5:30 pm
5 hour left data XD

This is definatley my most visited site.

COMMERCIAL BUILD 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Delgado - # October 1st, 2007 at 5:31 pm
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanatos - # October 1st, 2007 at 5:32 pm
As soon as you put up the link to buy this…. you will have a flood of money… and I garentee you I will be one of the first ones.
TFSR - # October 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pm
DATA: PACKAGE PRICING NOW GET!
For seriously, I guarantee I will buy at least 3 copies if not 5, I want to know how much I need to go into debt.
whitty - # October 1st, 2007 at 5:44 pm
this is the most ive checked the dev log. ever.
usualy i check once a week. now its about 50000000 times a day.
whitty - # October 1st, 2007 at 5:47 pm
4 1/2 hours HURRY DATA
ChJees - # October 1st, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Exciting, Data wil have my money at any price.

Hope this rumor is not false…
AGENT15 - # October 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pm
When did Data ever say that a new version would be released on October first?
Peewee - # October 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Never… they just have their hopes up
robolee - # October 1st, 2007 at 6:33 pm
I was hoping it would be up around now as its HALF ONE in the morning and I get up at 7, ah well gotta sleep
AGENT15 - # October 1st, 2007 at 7:00 pm
Actually, just saw the thread about the new version.

Data, don’t rush it. If it’s tomorrow or the next day, fine with me. (Not that I’m the only person with an opinion :P)

Still, here’s hoping its today. Actually, by Wednesday. That’s the day I can play games, so if it’s tomorrow or wednesday morning, fine with me.
AGENT15 - # October 1st, 2007 at 7:00 pm
Oh yeah, will old mods work with the new version?
whitty - # October 1st, 2007 at 10:22 pm
uh oh data 41 minutes…. HURRY B4 U MISS TEH DEADLINE!!!!
but if you dont, we still love the game
AGENT15 - # October 1st, 2007 at 10:23 pm
It doesn’t matter too much. Data never said the would try to release today. (Did they?)
whitty - # October 1st, 2007 at 10:26 pm
he wanted to release it for IGF but he only has 36 minutes to do that…
the winner for IGF gets $20,000 USD
AGENT15 - # October 1st, 2007 at 10:32 pm
Well that IS snazzy…
Grif - # October 1st, 2007 at 11:51 pm
HOLY HELL YOU GAIZ

YOU’RE WAITING FOR NOTHING

HE ALREADY GAVE IT TO IGF.

SEE: http://www.igf.com/php-bin/entries2007.php?entry_id=154

Christ, lern2reserch
Grif - # October 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 am
Ah, disregard the above; Skiv corrected me on irc.
Skiv - # October 2nd, 2007 at 12:20 am
its an IGF 2007(!) entrants not 2008
robolee - # October 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 am
well the submit button still there…
whitty - # October 2nd, 2007 at 6:01 am
grif that was last years link
fgfg - # October 2nd, 2007 at 7:14 am
OMG DATA SUBMIT TO IGF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fdg|Toby - # October 2nd, 2007 at 9:42 am
I’ve been realy enjoying the game ever since you could build your base at the start. This just looks awesome, nice job data Will the game run just as good with all that pathfindingness?
Blob - # October 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 am
Ohh.. When will be teh build? Or final ver. :-O
TFSR - # October 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 am
200 get?
BreenedandScrooned - # October 2nd, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Whitty: Look at Grif’s above post.
Grif - # October 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pm
“grif that was last years link”

“Ah, disregard the above; Skiv corrected me on irc.”
Alty - # October 3rd, 2007 at 6:41 am
Oh well, looks like I assumed wrong : x

..but I still remember when Prom and Data were on irc and that they had a whole month to develop the whole bundle until the entry deadline. So… does this mean that you guys are now working on CC part time and working on you ”ordinary jobs” like you said?
AGENT15 - # October 3rd, 2007 at 8:20 am
FUCK! I had a dream there was this HUGE update to Cortex Command… God damnit. It was so awesome :O

A premonition?

Oh yeah, the rest of my dream consisted of me fighting little baby T-Rexes. The cortex command update was better though.
robolee - # October 3rd, 2007 at 8:41 am
FUCK! I had a dream there was this HUGE update to Cortex Command… God damnit. It was so awesome :O

lol this happened to me about build 15, its because you think about cortex command too much
tison345 - # October 3rd, 2007 at 9:34 am
I damn hope this will be available in a Free build
PromoStarr - # October 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 am
Cmon data hurry up and up date the dev log cause im getting edgy!!! I WANT AN UPDATE!!!!!
KarvaBopi - # October 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 am
DATA:
Karva: Don’t worry, we will support a ton of different ways to pay for a copy of the game, not all requiring credit cards.

OH MY GOD THATS MY SAVIOUR !!! thank you god * looks up to the skyes*
Tendrop - # October 3rd, 2007 at 2:05 pm
HURRY UP @ RELEASE ALREADY! ITS 4:00 WEDNESDAY HERE!
Tendrop - # October 3rd, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Ops. For @ i ment and
Tomaster - # October 3rd, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Remember what happened last time we pressured him to release a build early? In case you forget, it was crappy
AGENT15 - # October 3rd, 2007 at 4:11 pm
I don’t think there is too much pressure on Data, I hope not, anyway. Data will always make some kickass shit, so we don’t need to tell him what to do.
Pie2.1 - # October 3rd, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Nice job data. Its so fun to use the heavy digger on other units. But something is odd. Everyone else seems to be using scene editer and i cant make enemy bases y?
Tendrop - # October 3rd, 2007 at 6:32 pm
I just want b19 to have the AI upgrade…
AGENT15 - # October 3rd, 2007 at 7:17 pm
It’s not in the game. Making an enemy base is only possible in multiplayer (kind of) where your friend makes a base too.
Blob - # October 4th, 2007 at 10:39 am
MaSu is the best band Ever.
finairfin - # October 4th, 2007 at 10:52 am
maybe, when playing a single player game, the AI should get some sort of default bunker, instead of a brain in the ground. sometimes it’s just nice to invade something.

also, will the new navigation dynamics be applied to gold digging AI? those are some really nice lookin’ tunnels, they look; perfect for finding and traveling to gold deposits. right now, they just sort of wave the digger around.
Dolphie - # October 4th, 2007 at 11:10 am
Peewee - # September 24th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
“Does the AI take enemy positions into account?
like say, i made a LONG tunnel leading to an open brain, and a shorter one that’s pinned down by one of my guys. Would it take the long or short path? ”

I think that’s the million bucks question.

This is my first and maybe only comment, so I’ll make it a little bit large.

I play this game from Argentina, a friend of mine found it on 4chan and gave him the best link I received this year. The game is just great, I play it at home, I play it at work.

I’m a little bit worried about the charged version because it’s no so easy buying stuff from Internet here and I refuse to crack the game.

I have only two suggestions for the future of the game. The things to develop for the final version, the important things are performance and AI, everything else is just perfect and the best way to get it better is by the creativity of mods.

The second suggestion is the ability to play LAN. I don’t expect playing by the Internet, but, just for confort, It would be freaking awesome.

Thanks for the time, excellent game, congratulations.
Blob - # October 4th, 2007 at 11:18 am
BTW Hubnester Industries is a sister corp. Machinae Supremacy
If I said it correctly
robolee - # October 4th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Data are you ILL! :0 ???
Foobear - # October 4th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
dammit i want the new build!
OMG - # October 4th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
OMG ITS BEEN 18 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! post either update or build PLEASE!!!!!!
AGENT15 - # October 4th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Holy shit I can’t wait for the new build… Fortunately, a new version of Mount and Blade will hold me over quite well.
Winterous - # October 4th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
*clears throat*
Holy shit.
You guys are GODS!
And not crappy gods either, like Ganeesh, or Aniger, the minor goddess of squashed animals.
whitty - # October 4th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
use this next time:

http://www.sieni.us/?id=13

insert it as a flash image into the page, and let it loose.
The Punisher - # October 5th, 2007 at 12:36 am
Lol, grif. That sure is a nice post.

Data keep up the leet work!
brinlarden - # October 5th, 2007 at 1:23 am
grif, i just wanna have sex with you. right now.
Blob - # October 5th, 2007 at 3:17 am
Data, looooooong time ago you said something about that Machinae Supremacy would make some music for CC. Soo.. Will the make CC soundtrack???
AGENT15 - # October 5th, 2007 at 7:37 am
I would join in, and I might, but now is not the time for me. It’s my birthday!
theannoyed1 - # October 5th, 2007 at 11:08 am
Wolfie - # September 28th, 2007 at 12:46 am
Talk to VALVe and see about getting it on steam, they’ll be more than impressed.

wolfie’s got a point
steams got much worse shit theres no way theyd refuse CC
AMERICA SUX
KarvaBopi - # October 5th, 2007 at 11:22 am
Data, could you tell me one or two ways to pay this game without a credit card or bank account numbers or something like that ?
please.
reioko - # October 5th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
HURRY UP!!!! please
The Annoying guy that points out negitive stuff - # October 5th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
I don’t intend to sound negative but I don’t think you can talk about releasing a commercial version of Cortex Command without first fixing the multiplayer mode and the green units coming out of red rockets when playing green team.
wonderwhy-er - # October 5th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Hmm… That’s all cool but with out proper multiplayer(not on one computer) this game still won’t be as good as it should…
theannoyed1 - # October 5th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
duh
thats why they’re working so hard to fix the flaws
just because the game play is a certain way in the test builds, dosent mean they’re gonna release it that way
AGENT15 - # October 5th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
This is a test build, Data has said that MANY times. So shush, if Cortex Command is this godly in a fucking test build, it will fucking shit out awesomeness in the final builds.
theannoyed1 - # October 5th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
get a room
Tendrop - # October 5th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
If b19 just has the ai upgrade, i will be overjoyed.
SOMEONE LOL - # October 6th, 2007 at 12:38 am
i thimk its sad abot dthor i think he have bad day and i wiant to help him. plz dont be negative to him im bery sad mayeb he to is sad. plz hes great m,od
AGENT15 - # October 6th, 2007 at 12:53 am
are you retarded?
Skiv - # October 6th, 2007 at 4:14 am
@someone: are you drunk?
Alty - # October 6th, 2007 at 5:31 am
Someone: Some one bring me the sledgehammer, that man needs a refreshment.

Fuck off k?
Skiv - # October 9th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Oh hello back from the moving
robolee - # October 9th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
are we not allowed the igf version?
Data - # October 9th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
The move hasn’t finished quite yet.. Probably another day or so.

The IGF version will be made available soon
brinlarden - # October 9th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
awesome, thanks for the update.
so could you give us a rough estimate, a week…2? before IGF atleast.
also i reckon you should answer more questions in the devlog and update it like every 3 days or something, even though your busy. but thats my ideal
cheers
Tendrop - # October 9th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
PLZ LET IT HAVE THE AI UPGRADE!!!!!
Foogooman - # October 9th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
IGF version? What is an IGF version, the version given to IGF I assume. Is it any different?
theannoyed1 - # October 9th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
tendrop
theres not gonna be a b19 moron

you’re gonna have to pay
so stop posting moron
Skiv - # October 9th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
no wai! awesome :)))
coilgunner - # October 9th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
woah…..
Vash - # October 9th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
I cant wait till we get the IGF version!what will come with it,I know the better Ai but will we get the new actors,ships and weapons you were talking about in crunchtime update? please data,RAZZLE OUR MINDS WITH THE ANSWER!
some random bystandard that likes to give usless ideas - # October 9th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
say something is like this, like ‘crap’. but then give us the IGF and then it will BLOW ARE MINDS!!!!!

it will make it seem so cool when it comes out
Oblivion - # October 9th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
I’m not sure if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.igf.com/php-bin/entry2008.php?id=197

Just look at the picture!!!
Kallemort - # October 10th, 2007 at 12:50 am
@Obivion: Oh my! That looks so good! But the round lakes made me wonder… Nukes? Yay!
Kallemort - # October 10th, 2007 at 12:51 am
OR craters. But I vote for nukes.
brinlarden - # October 10th, 2007 at 9:44 am
wow nice new start up, i hope you redid the loading screen aswell that keyboard looked shit, no offence
GameR - # October 10th, 2007 at 10:30 am
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, at least!
Kaito - # October 10th, 2007 at 10:30 am
Argh, i check this page every day for a update, just a tiny little one would be awesome D:

I NEED THIS GAME, i need to think of a way to inject it into my bloodstream
GameR - # October 10th, 2007 at 10:30 am
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, at least!
Blob - # October 10th, 2007 at 10:40 am
“I’m not sure if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.igf.com/php-bin/entry2008.php?id=197

Just look at the picture!!!”

OMFGZORZ!!!! But.. Will there be four teams??? Nooo… No four teams.. Anyway It ROXXXX
“chiptune metal soundtrack”
W00T!!!!!!!!!!
tison345 - # October 10th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
“not the IGF version?”

Oh wow I’m looking forward to THAT! I wonder if it will only be available as a commercial release :/
KarvaBopi - # October 10th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
So wtf is this IGF version?

*cough*….
Data - # October 10th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
brin, yes the loading screen is redone too ;p
tison345 - # October 10th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Oh Data Data Data what are the new features/tweaks in the IGF version? Will it be available to us?
tison345 - # October 10th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
I just saw you said it will be made available soon. Do you mean free?
tobbs40 - # October 10th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
when you buy it and you update it will people that buy it get automatic updates? and will you be able to make mods for the game still?
Data - # October 10th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
tobbs: yes and yes
brinlarden - # October 10th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
ok thanks data we all love you!!!, i hope you win the IGF 1st prize
Tendrop - # October 10th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Woohoo! Data, can you give us a release date?
tobbs40 - # October 10th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
SWEETNESS! I… I… I love you.
Omnimmotus - # October 10th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Forums are down again.

Pathfinding looks awesome though. Will it stop AI gold diggers from digging to the bottom of the map and getting their legs torn off by the map border?
AGENT15 - # October 11th, 2007 at 12:32 am
Data, I’m gonna make you a cake. A big one, with prostitutes in it. Oh wait, you’re married. Strippers then.
GameR - # October 11th, 2007 at 6:15 am
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, looks great!
Delgado - # October 11th, 2007 at 7:33 am
Data im gonna make u a FANCY cake that is really good. data if u had a donate button i would donate prob 20 bucks
KarvaBopi - # October 11th, 2007 at 8:00 am
Data, could you tell even one, non credit card non bank account etc. way to pay this game ?

AND WHAT DOES IGF VERSION MEAN ?!!?!?!?
AGENT15 - # October 11th, 2007 at 8:07 am
It means the version Data submitted to IGF, “Independent Games Festival”
robolee - # October 11th, 2007 at 8:20 am
Independent Games Festival
ITS A COMPETITION it has been linked to TWICE, dont be lazy
also I’m, not flaming you, I’m enlightening you of the correct protocols
Blob - # October 11th, 2007 at 11:34 am
Data, will we be able to play multiplayer campaign?
Kurrus - # October 11th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
FORUMS ARE STILL BROKEN WJ WTF???1
Party Pancakes - # October 11th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
Damn, moving servers again >:(

Back on topic. The pathfinding looks great! Can you give us an estimated release date?
Fippe - # October 11th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
That IGF-version CC looks real…

KICK-ASS! You rule, DATA!

… When we will be able to DL that version?
Probably after IGF, but I’m having my hopes high. Very high.

~Fippe
Striker26 - # October 11th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
yay….right when i post my mod, the server has to move…
Can’t wait for the pathfinding though
tobbs40 - # October 11th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
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. . . - # October 11th, 2007 at 3:46 pm
shut up dude, one awsome is enough.

this game is going to be awsome
theannoyed1 - # October 11th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Tobbs
shut up, ur wasting more space then the theannoyed1 vs Grif dispute
tobbs40 - # October 11th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
your point?
Alex - # October 11th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
His point is that You’re being a moron and thats really annoying.
tobbs40 - # October 11th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
yea its fun, still no more spamming for me for now but who knows i might start now woo woo woo woo woo… not!
Omnimmotus - # October 11th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Jeez people, stop fighting. You guys are gettin’ crazy in here.

Just sit back and chill. CC is coming, new updates are on their way, mods are getting better and better… just sit back and ride it.
tobbs40 - # October 11th, 2007 at 7:18 pm
Hey lets go for the record. Lets get more than 300 for this topic!
What - # October 11th, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Alright.

Also, release date?
. . . - # October 11th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
oooo
. . . - # October 11th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
We are going for 300? ok
sylverone (aka cliftut) - # October 11th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
I’m not sure if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.igf.com/php-bin/entry2008.php?id=197

Just look at the picture!!!
—–
Ah! So now we know what both sides of the planet look like! I would really like to see a 3d model of that! Although I apologize for mentioning another game in CC’s devlog (don’t mob me!), I might try to recreate it as best I can in Spore once it comes out. I think it’s fitting to use an awesome game to pay tribute to another awesome game.

Naturally, I’m assuming that both games will be awesome in their final forms; and they’d better be… I’m looking at you guys–*Looks pointedly at Data and Will Wright*–and you guys as well, while I’m at it…–*Turns around and looks at Alec Holowka and Derek Yu*.

I wouldn’t even dare to make a comparison between these games. A good game is a good game; trying to figure out which one is “official best” is silly and unnecessary (although varying individual tastes will almost always cause preferences).
eternjc - # October 11th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Hehe, how very un-offending of you, Sylverone. Now brace yourself for the back-flame …
What - # October 11th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Two moar poasts
Tendrop - # October 12th, 2007 at 5:15 am
Yeah, it will be 300 by by the time i get back and i will miss it. ;_;
tobbs40 - # October 12th, 2007 at 5:21 am
300, its a new RECORED!
Eric - # October 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
THESE COMMENT PAGES REALLY NEED TO STOP BEING A REPLACEMENT FOR THE WEB FORUMS.

NO ONE WANTS TO READ 300 POSTS OF STUPIDITY. PLEASE STOP NOW. GB2/GAIA
Tendrop - # October 12th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
Wah. n00b got 300th.
Peewee - # October 12th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Jeez people, stop fighting. You guys are gettin’ crazy in here.

Just sit back and chill. CC is coming, new updates are on their way, mods are getting better and better… just sit back and ride it.

—-

Umm… mods aren’t getting any better, because the FORUMS ARE DOWN. in case you hadn’t noticed.
Eric - # October 12th, 2007 at 9:23 pm
Which is exactly why the mods shouldn’t be on a forum anyway.
Anders Jenbo - # October 13th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Naaaaissss
theannoyed1 - # October 16th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
whats wrong with spamming?
is there a devlog rule book?
anyway, if anybody wants to spam, might as well do it here.
Theres a new devlog post, so this one dont matter anyway
tobbs40 - # October 17th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
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